Humor en t.v. (II). Tele¿comedias?

En la anterior entrega de Bloc de Anillas (esto parece un recordatorio de capítulo de culebrón) hablábamos sobre la situación de los humoristas patrios, aunque también se apuntaron muchas cuestiones sobre otros asuntos, entre ellos las series. Ante la variedad de las series americanas y británicas (de Seinfield a Mr. Bean, de Frazier a La pareja basura, del Príncipe del Bel Air a Las chicas de Oro, de Cheers a El Enano Rojo, a Matrimonio con hijos, a Juzgado de Guardia…), en España se sigue ninguneando el concepto de telecomedia, entendida como un espacio de unos 25 o 30 minutos basado en situaciones cómicas y humorísticas que se desgranan con precisión y ritmo mientras se cuenta una historia. Muchas de las series españolas que tratan de adaptarse a la telecomedia pecan por exceso, ya que normalmente son larguísimas. A esto hay que añadir que la mayoría de guionistas españoles piden con insistencia el destierro a la isla de Elba (¿de dónde sacarán a escribidores tan pésimos?). A su vez, los productores parecen haberse tomado el humor como algo que tiene que llegar a todo el mundo en horario de máxima audiencia, centrándose casi siempre en el costumbrismo (solamente Siete Vidas intenta a veces mostrar otro tipo de humor, pero claro está, es larguíiiiisima). Con lo que cuestan algunas de las estupideces de pretendido humor que se emiten, se podrían hacer tres telecomedias que reflejasen distintas maneras de entender la risa y la sonrisa, de acuerdo a diferentes audiencias (ah, utopías televisivas). Esta falta de respeto por el público se puede observar claramente en la elección de actores. Muchas de esas series están protagonizadas por intérpretes, por llamarlos así, procedentes de otros campos del espectáculo, por llamarlo así, y que muestran enormes carencias en su, por llamarlo así, trabajo (sí, son impresentables). Si unimos la idiocia del productor a la falta de talento del guionista y le ponemos la guinda de la nulidad de muchos actores, nos encontramos…con el panorama actual. En cualquier caso, resulta muy difícil de entender que no se apueste por la telecomedia española cuando las americanas e inglesas suelen dar tan buen resultado, y por su duración se adaptan a cualquier franja horaria de la parrilla televisiva. Parece que la tónica general de tele-basura impide que se desarrolle el más mínimo atisbo de excelencia en la pequeña pantalla. Por último, pido una oración laica por la única serie española de humor (larga, claro), que mostró en su momento una indudable calidad (y fue enviada a las galeras de la madrugada, claro): Villarriba y Villabajo.

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  1. Ana Obregon wrote:

    Esas series tan nefastas tienen mucha audiencia. Que «Ana y los 7» tenga el público que tiene lo dice absolutamente todo. Dudo que ningun productor de televisión español quiera cambiar el formato.

  2. Razz wrote:

    A mi también me gustaba Moncloa Digame, al menos tenía algo de crítica (que no es una cosa que abunde en las series de por aquí) y no duraba demasiado. Lástima que solo se hicieran unos pocos capitulos…

  3. Razz wrote:

    A mi también me gustaba Moncloa Digame, al menos tenía algo de crítica (que no es una cosa que abunde en las series de por aquí) y no duraba demasiado. Lástima que solo se hicieran unos pocos capitulos…

  4. Garganta Profunda wrote:

    Este post era para decir que hoy Canal+ emite la segunda parte del ULTIMO capitulo de «Seinfield» a las 20:50.
    Preparen videos!

    Y en cuanto al asunto «Telecomedias Carpetovetonicas», decir que me parecen todas infumables excepto «Pepa y Pepe» (en algunas cositas), «Plats Bruts» (en TV3 y tampoco es que sea la ostia en bote) y como no «Verano Azul»! (Bea ya es mujer!) 😉

  5. Avelino wrote:

    Sí, la verdad es que lo de las telecomedias españolas es imprescindibles. Ya se comentaba en la anterior anotación de ‘Bloc de anillas’ que la duración de una hora+anuncios de «siete vidas» y otras ha acabado pasando factura. A mí, donde esté «Friends», que se quite lo demás.

  6. Beria wrote:

    En Localia estan reponiendo Cheers, para los nostalgicos del desterrado humor inteligente y del divertido retrato costumbrista. De lunes a viernes a las 20:00.

  7. JaviWoll wrote:

    Ahora en tv3 hacen una los jueves a las 21:30 que cumple los requisitos (30 min.) «L’un per l’altre» si no recuerdo mal el nombre, hecha por los de Plats Bruts sin Joel Joan. A mí me gusta.

  8. ****** wrote:

    «Time gentleman, please», «Black adder», «Father Ted», «Drop the dead donkey». Buenas series donde las haya

  9. Scardanelli wrote:

    Recomiendo muy fervientemente «Sí, ministro» y su continuación, «Sí, primer ministro», sin duda la mejor comedia política de la historia. Británica, por supuesto. Sólo hay un pequeño problema: ignoro dónde pueden conseguirse sus capítulos (traducidos). Si alguien lo sabe, que no espere ni un segundo para informarme. Se lo agradeceré toda la vida. La televisión catalana la ha empezado a emitir varias veces, pero cuando por fin me decidí a grabarla entera, los programadores tuvieron la feliz ocurriencia de detener la emisión sin más explicaciones a las puertas del número diez de Daunin Estrit. ¡Malditos envidiosos! ¡Así perezcáis todos en el infierno de la creación ibérica!

    Da igual, lo ofrecido fue más que suficiente para paladear la mala leche y la enorme sapiencia de sus guionistas, así como el siempre espléndido hacer de los actores británicos. Es del todo imposible soñar con que algún día se haga aquí algo al menos comparable. ¡Ah, cómo vibro de placer al recordar el cinismo descarnado del culto secretario de Estado permanente que la protagoniza! La Tatcher, con toda su falta de escrúpulos, no fue más que una alumna aventajada de este maligno alto funcionario. Si queréis saber de qué va eso del poder y sus infinitas corrupciones, y que además os lo cuenten con una gracia y una destreza simpar, dejaos de bobas «sitcoms» familiares y azucaradas e introduciros en un mundo de hombres duros y profesionales competentes.

    Una última cosa: que nadie se atreva a decirme jamás que los americanos, o los anglosajones en general, son más necios que nosotros, los cultos hispanos. Por sus obras los conoceréis. Nombradme tan sólo un justo, una sola comedia española de televisión que pueda medirse con Frasier, con Black Adder, con The Young Ones, con los Simpson, con Doctor en Alaska, con… ¡Basta! Creo que está clara la situación. (El juicio vale igualmente para el cine, el comic y cualquier otro entretenimiento de masas)

    Humildemente,
    Scardanelli.

  10. jep wrote:

    hombnre, aqui se ha hablado de una de las mejores «Black adder»!!! Yo la vi en TV3 (l’escurçó negre). Esa si que marcó una época.

    Molaria que alguien fuera capaz de hacer una parodia histórica aquí que le llegara por lo menos a la suela de los zapatos.

    Me temo que la historia en este estado está demasiado ideologizada como para esto, si incluso la inefable pilar del castillo ahora quiere enseñar historia «de españa» desde la prehistoria!! menuda falacia!

  11. petrus wrote:

    Quién ha dicho por ahí cheers? La mejor serie de humor que ha pasado por la tv con diferencia. No es por nada, pero las españolas van muy forzadas, quieren copiar el modelo americano y no les sale. También había unas series inglesas con un humor muy británico (obviamente), muy bien hechas y con ironía fina, los roper, arriba y abajo, el magistrado …

  12. richiwichi wrote:

    algun fan de red dwarf/enano rojo/nan roig? alguien sabe si se acabó rodando la película? se puede encontrar en alguna parte?

    saludos!

  13. MeneK wrote:

    SI, MINISTRE!!! Ahora están volviendo a pasar «Sí, primer ministre» en el Canal 33, creo que los miércoles por la noche. Todos los capítulos de las 2 primeras temporadas de «Sí, ministre» en catalán se pueden encontrar en el eMule, y las 2 series completas en inglés, también.

    Esta serie la tendrían que pasar en las escuelas!.

    Salutacions,

  14. Blackadder wrote:

    Allo allo, Blackadder, El enano rojo, Si, ministro y secuela, The young ones, Fawlty Towers y demas son totalmente im-pres-cin-di-bles. Si las televisiones españolas no son capaces de idear un producto q les llegue a observar el calcetin desde abajo al menos nos consolamos pq tiran la toalla y nos traen estas series enormes.
    Para el resto siempre quedaran ana y los siete y los serrano con resines y bonilla haciendo de si mismos una y otra vez.

  15. Scardanelli wrote:

    ¡Menek, te quiero!
    Puedes pedirme un riñón si algún día lo necesitas.
    Hace tanto que no veo la tele que se me había pasado. Es imperdonable.
    Gracias y mil veces gracias.

  16. Beria wrote:

    La Vibora Negra la echan tambien en Localia (los liberales que se jodan que es de Prisa, esos que se traguen UPA y las demas mierdas de su cadena liberal, Antena 3 :-D) los fines de semana por la tarde, aunque no se exactamente el horario.

  17. Ava wrote:

    A mi lo que me ha salvado la vida y me ha hecho recuperar el hábito de ver televisión tras casi dos años sin encenderla apenas, fue la llegada a mi casa del Paramount comedy. Dejando a un lado cunado emiten infectas series españolas de Globomedia, que deben de andar baratas en el mercado, ha sido una gozada poder ver Doctor en Alaska entera, El Show de Larry Flanders, Aquellos maravillosos 70, Cosas de marcianos (3rd Rock from the sun), Cheers, Becker, Plats bruts y tantas otras que me dejo.
    Estas series son una cura de salud mental, privatizada, por supuesto.

  18. Oddball wrote:

    Dioss…
    Se olvidan ustedes de la mas colosal serie de humor jamas emitida: «Búscate la vida»

    ¡Corre Vomitón, corre como el viento!

  19. Otis B. Driftwood wrote:

    Al hilo de este tema, leo hoy en Google News que el mago-humorista Pepe Carrol ha muerto de un infarto con 46 años. Era de la escuela de Juan Tamariz y había desarrollado un estilo propio en el que mezclaba sus trucos de magia con un sentido del humor más que agudo.

    Joder, si es que encima que hay pocos se nos van 🙁

  20. Guchiguagua Caifás wrote:

    Pa Beria:

    «…los liberales que se jodan que es de Prisa, esos que se traguen UPA y las demas mierdas de su cadena liberal, Antena 3 :-D)»

    Pero que tonto eres hijo mio. En fin…

  21. Avelino wrote:

    >Pero que tonto eres hijo mio.

    ¿?

  22. Octubre Rojo wrote:

    «Villa Arriba y Villa Abajo» me recuerdan mucho a «Amanece que no es Poco, y los disfrutaba igual hasta que la desverguenza de los programadores la hicieron saltar de horario y de orden, justo igual que si masillaran agujeros en la pared. El mundo al reves, vamos. (sincera ira)

    Deberían exponerlos en plaza pública igual que a Tapiés o a Botero, y eventualmente dejar un látigo de uso publico para aquel ciudadano que quisiere ajustar cuentas.

    Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

  23. deckar wrote:

    a mi que las telecomedias españolas sean malas, me la trae bastante floja. Lo que me preocupa es que ahora ni siquiera llegan las sitcoms extranjeras realmente buenas. Casi siempre británicas, a excepción de frasier y seinfield.
    Capítulo aparte merecen los actores patrios. Es fascinante su gran capacidad de adaptación al medio. Tanto les da un roto que un descosido. Lo importante es cobrarlo, y cobrarlo bien. Que hay que hacer un monólogo humorístico, pues se hace. Que hay que recitar a Garcilaso, ahí estamos. Que hay que presentar un programa, pues también, coño que pa eso estamos. Eso si, preparar los personajes, los acentos, las dicciones…. Eso no, que da mucho trabajo y total pa lo que pagan.

  24. Al Bundy wrote:

    pequeños, no os olvideis de papá Al, siempre en su línea.

  25. Toni camo wrote:

    Alucino con «Sí ministro». He visto varios capítulos y reflejan la suciedad de la política hasta un extremo que me sorprende que no haya sido censurada. Buenísima.

    En cuanto a comedias españolas… Tengo un gran recuerdo de «Oh! Europa», una serie catalana de 13 capítulos de 30 minutos de duración. Divertida y con un humor de nivel altísimo.

    Y si se puede considerar comedia (o melodrama, no sé), la más grande que recuerdo es «Juncal». Siete capítulos de una hora excelentes.

  26. Camarada Bakunin wrote:

    Para Menek: Enano rojo yo lo encontré el año pasado en eMule. Había episodios en castellano y en inglés. Incluso encontré ficheros con ¡los guiones completos!

  27. comadreja wrote:

    Mirad, mirad, se ke llego tarde pero no puedo evitar colocar el puntito en la i final, jeje… «ELS JOVES»!!! Nunca la he visto en ningún otro canal que no sea el catalan, pero voto a dios que es cojonuda, increible, magnifica… El humor más absurdo, descacharrante, fino, en la línea del mejor monty pyton, siempre sin saber por donde demonios te van a salir en el capitulo siguiente… Un anarkista, un hippie, un mod y un punk viviendo juntitos en un pisito, alucinando todos, con situaciones absurdas (se inunda londres e intentan salir con un submarino hecho de cartón, al abrir el armario entran en un mundo de duendes y tal, y ellos siempre por ahí, liandola…) En fin. Desde luego no tiene la fina ironia de frasier, ni la critica de «si, ministro», pero, oigan, para echarse unas risas no hay nada mejor. Cosa fina.

  28. Shari wrote:

    Alguien sabe como encontrar Ana y los siete o cuentame como paso en emule. Gracias

  29. Yordi wrote:

    Alguien me puede decir que gracia le encuentran a Seinfield?????
    Y no me malinterpreten, soy decididamente projudio sin remordimientos, pero intento ver los capitulos y nada, de nada… tantos de años de estudios para esto….
    Friends me encanta desde que empezo y ya pase los 30. Vale que las situaciones son constumbristas y sencillas, pero me rio con todos sus topicazos incluidos.
    7 vidas, la mejor en España, las demas son demasiado blandas en mi opinion, con unos niños pijos de marca guay imsoportables.
    Benny Hill era muy bueno, a pesar de la tendencia al despelote, que simplemente era una critica al tipico viejo verde que nos lo hacia encantador.
    Me gustan las series tambien que tengan mala leche, 3rd rock from the Sun, Matrimonio con Hijos, Infelices para SIempre, los SImpson aunque no todos los episodios, SOuth Park. QUe curioso que los americanos sean capaces de hacer estas producciones de mala leche y en cambio en Italia, España o Francia que nos las damos de progres, seguimos con la teleserie estilo medico de familia que ya agoto Bill Cosby y que es calcadita que los Brady. Solo ingleses o americanos se sientes seguros como para reirse de si mismos, aqui el humor es reirse de o contra alguien, el cornudo, la zorra, el paleto…

  30. C. Montgomery Burns wrote:

    ¿Nadie vio nunca la tronchante «Orden especial», de Els Joglars? Qué descojone de serie oigan.

  31. Lilith wrote:

    ¿Alguien ha visto Pasados de vueltas? Creo que es una de las más heavys que he visto nunca.

  32. Lilith wrote:

    En el anterior mensaje he escrito mal mi dirección. Ahora si es la buena.

  33. mago wrote:

    Incluso las series extranjeras antiguas están a años luz de nuestras nacionales de hoy. Benny Hill, MASH, Los Roper, «Caida y auge de Reginal Perry», los Heroes de Hogan…

    Solo la serie «tres estrellas» de tricicle y en menor medida «chooof!!» pueden competir con las britanicas y americanas

  34. ms_shapes wrote:

    Una de las mejores series para mi es «caida y auge de Reginal Perry», sabes donde puedo conseguirla?
    Del resto, el enano rojo, si ministro, pasados de vuelta, buscate la vida, todo de monty python, arriba y abajo, mash.. pura maravilla.. ahora en la 2 emiten una seria decente » a dos metros bajo tierra»
    Un saludo

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